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Grumpy Owly Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 209	Posted - 2012.02.21 04:53:00 - [1] - Quote Dare I be serious? EvE is real, so much so that comparison of real life relevance is now used as a platform to debate morality in a Sci Fi game. I don't know which is worse. Promoting a generalised dissasociated belief or trivialising RL ethics. Lets take the derived conclusion to the max then and promote EvE as the platform for resolving RL wars. Griefers are lazy cowards with the current climate of broken player policing systems. Stop EvE Apathy
Grumpy Owly Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 209	Posted - 2012.02.21 06:00:00 - [2] - Quote Father Maynard wrote: Grumpy Owly wrote: Dare I be serious? EvE is real, so much so that comparison of real life relevance is now used as a platform to debate morality in a Sci Fi game. I don't know which is worse. Promoting a generalised dissasociated belief or trivialising RL ethics. Lets take the derived conclusion to the max then and promote EvE as the platform for resolving RL wars. Have you read about some of the politics that goes on in 0.0? These "conflicts" don't just come out of thin air. They also get perpetuated the same way RL conflicts do. In fact, I bet someone could write a paper on how similar the 0.0 politics are to RL politics. Where's the oil in eve? roflysst Of course conflict are derived from differences, I wouldn't deny that, though some derived conflicts in EvE are simply random based on killboard motivations than ethics, I just wouldn't draw a RL comparison (at all). I've yet to see a real life politician at a memorial day say "ah, well it promotes PvP so its all good fun". Griefers are lazy cowards with the current climate of broken player policing systems. Stop EvE Apathy
Grumpy Owly Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 210	Posted - 2012.02.21 07:53:00 - [3] - Quote Valei Khurelem wrote: Quote: EvE is real, so much so that comparison of real life relevance is now used as a platform to debate morality in a Sci Fi game. Sorry, but the fact that EVE players run around parroting marketing slogans created by CCP and they have an obsession claiming EVE is a harsh universe when it isn't does make me question the mental state of a lot of the player base. EVE isn't a harsh universe, it's just a silly overhyped game that is limping along because no one has anything better to play, if someone came out with the exact same type of game and did real time combat with where you aimed your turrets instead of locking on it would be completely obliterated. You do realise I was being sarcastic? Griefers are lazy cowards with the current climate of broken player policing systems. Stop EvE Apathy
Grumpy Owly Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 210	Posted - 2012.02.21 07:56:00 - [4] - Quote Valei Khurelem wrote: Grumpy Owly wrote: Valei Khurelem wrote: Quote: EvE is real, so much so that comparison of real life relevance is now used as a platform to debate morality in a Sci Fi game. Sorry, but the fact that EVE players run around parroting marketing slogans created by CCP and they have an obsession claiming EVE is a harsh universe when it isn't does make me question the mental state of a lot of the player base. EVE isn't a harsh universe, it's just a silly overhyped game that is limping along because no one has anything better to play, if someone came out with the exact same type of game and did real time combat with where you aimed your turrets instead of locking on it would be completely obliterated. You do realise I was being sarcastic? ....... THANK YOU! YOU GIVE ME HOPE IN HUMANITY! Hugs :D p.s. sarcasm doesn't translate well on the internet unless you're really obvious about it. Thats why I put a "rolls eyes" emoticon in the original text next to the comment. Griefers are lazy cowards with the current climate of broken player policing systems. Stop EvE Apathy
Grumpy Owly Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 211	Posted - 2012.02.21 09:09:00 - [5] - Quote While I don't endorse that primal urges can't be controlled by self-discipline I have to concede there are anthropological and bilolgical influences at work. But I'm hoping our value systems goes along way from seperating us from monkeys. And to use an analogy, I'd certainly prefer someone to take their stress out on a punchbag than a person in RL. However, where the lines are blurred is when people don't recognise culpability for their actions or trivialise "punkish" behaviour, they are still relevant even in games, even when in the cases that RP is at work. And attitudes on forums to certain issues needs to be kept in check. And for some I would remind about the presence of impressionable teenagers. But I won't dampen the argument down too much for fear of having overburdening sensibilities. Principally, I do recgonise the idea that EvE is a medium for "freedom of expression". I'm hoping that people don't really blur the line too much here. As an idea, maybe as an experiment we should encorage any players in game who are qualified consellors or members of the psychiatric profession to afford councilling services IG? Griefers are lazy cowards with the current climate of broken player policing systems. Stop EvE Apathy
Grumpy Owly Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 212	Posted - 2012.02.21 09:55:00 - [6] - Quote Bubanni wrote: One should remember that eve is basicly a war game, and "mocking" the enemy is a form of battle-drum Yes I'll grant you that psychological warfare has its place. Still doesnt take away responsibility from what you do in that does it? Also you don't have to be a complete asshat in the process to achieve the above. In fact demonstrating intelligent wit that can subversly undermine the opponents thinking rather than just relying on the "Your Mom" or worse approach is likley more valuable as a tactic in these cases. Griefers are lazy cowards with the current climate of broken player policing systems. Stop EvE Apathy
Grumpy Owly Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 220	Posted - 2012.02.21 23:03:00 - [7] - Quote Aggressive Nutmeg wrote: Ptraci wrote: History teaches us that humans are willing to do absolutely anything to get what they want as long as they think they can get away with it. History also teaches us that groups and individuals are willing to make great sacrifices for the sake of some high ideal. For some the glass is half empty. For others the glass is half full. Technically, the glass is always full (air + water). And yes, I majored in t-shirt philosophy. I've always seen it as more relevant as to how thirsty you are, or how big a glass you have decided to give yourself in the first place as to how relevant the half/full glass philosophy translates. Bounty Hunting for CSM 7 Stop EvE Apathy

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